Meet and Grow / MyKunlun

Hi all,

first of all thanks for creating a space where also learners from the book can ask questions and share info!

I have a question. In the description of Kunlun 1 the book says that if after 10 minutes no inner movement is felt then one should begin spiralling at the waist. I take the first part of the sentence to mean that if after 10 minutes one doesn't feel any energy moving inside the body then one should spiral at the waist.

As for the spiralling, what do I have to do exactly? As I am supposed to be sitting (as per instructions in the book):
- does it mean to rotate the upper part of the body (the torso) from the hips in a circular motion (like a reversed cone), while keeping sitting?
- or to rotate the waist only as if one were playing with a hoola hop but in sitting?
- or something else I cannot figure out?

Cheers

    I actually just experienced some spontaneous spiraling at the waist, and it was of the first variety that you mentioned. I would imagine this is the type of spiraling meant. I can't quite imagine any other type of spiral movement being very manageable or comfortable while sitting down. Hope that helps.

    sadhaka

I think the idea is that if nothing happens, just kick yourself a little kick (move yourself), i usually do a slight nodding of head or move legs.

"Spiralling at the waist" Could mean a lot things...  the waist is the location of the lower dan tien (hara in yoga).  Taoist chi kung explains that "spiralling" out of and in to the lower dan tien can be extremely beneficial in strengthening one's foundation of chi.  Men should "spiral" in the direction of bowel movements thru the large intestine.  Female: opposite direction.  You can use your hands and direct the "lao gung" points, or palms, to face and direct the energy in the spiralling.  Moving the hips or lower dan tien in any sort of spiraling motion that can be traced on the "yin-yang symbol" (circle or spiral) is definitely along the same lines and allows stronger grounding as well as hip joint strength, flexibility, and relaxation... all key elements in any effective tai chi form.  Remember, this is also the general location of the lower 3 chakras which are the centers for awareness in the "lower self", aka physical/gross self.  Any motion and vibration in this lower area of the body is quite beneficial for energy meditation of nearly any sort.